A 17-Year-Old Is Responsible For Chinatown Stabbing

Bellvue Hospital where victim Nelson Rafael Pena was taken after being brutally attacked

Bellvue Hospital where victim Nelson Rafael Pena was taken after being brutally attacked

The police have arrested a 17-year-old for the fatal stabbing that occurred in Chintatown two weeks ago.

The 17-year-old suspect, Victor Fong, was charged with second-degree murder after showing up at the Fifth Precinct station on Monday to surrender, with his lawyer.

The victim of the stabbing was 18-year-old Nelson Rafael Pena, who was coming home from work at the Local Foot Locker on November 18, when he was attacked by Fong, and brutally stabbed in the leg and chest. Pena’s friend, who was with them at the time, was also reportedly stabbed in the neck, but survived.

Investigators say the assault was not gang related.

On November 18, Mr. Pena and his friend were walking near Hester and Forsyth Street around 6 p.m., when they were attacked by two men they had a confrontation with a short time before. Police say that the stabbing was indeed over some type of dispute, although they do not know over what. Relatives of Mr. Pena said they learned that the attackers were upset “over a look.”

Parents and friends say Mr. Pena was athletic, and loved his job at Foot Locker in SoHo. Pena had grown up on Broome Street behind the Seventh Precinct station and was the middle child in a family of three boys and four girls.

“My son doesn’t carry weapons,” said Pena’s mother, Ms. Vasquez, in an interview. “He never had a chance to defend himself. He was a good kid.”

  • ta
    o shutup mei dong . you fuckken fj wanna be fuckken black. keep hanging out with your so call gangsters. yeh i know your hiding behind one of these screen names.
  • STRIKESquad All day FUCK THD
    Yea i am fj but i dont know if i wanna be black just wait till we catch one of ya thds goonies
    LEts see whos gonna be talking then
    LES $tay up
  • asasd
    remember that scar ... just wait.
  • FUCK YA THDS
    WHAT SCAR YOU PUNKASS LION DANCing BITCHES what yas gonna do??Use batans on me like them a.t niqqas
    YA JUST WAIT TILL WE CATCH YA THD NIGGAS FOR MY BRother Punchy
    I HOPE 4 eye bitch gets jail 23 years imma drink at my boys grave after that
  • FUCK STRIKESQUAD
    Fuck ya niggas to, who you? wat you gonna do? use hammers and bats? fuck you sounding so tough for? YOU just wait til we catch one of ya strikesquad goonies, and piss on punchys grave after, fuck up nigga
  • fuck thd
    We'll see about it
    My boy aint gonna die for nothing a1te foo keep that shyt in yos minds
    this aint gonna stop till we fuqking end thd bitch
  • asdfasd
    GAHHAHAHAHAHAAH
  • Dumd and dead
    Ok nobody is rightt in this caseee period one is dead 1 is going to jail half his life
    Is Victor fong going to jail going to bring Nelson Pena back?
    The answer is no I personally knew Nelson and Victor I can personally
    say Victor was a good kid he could've just avoided this by not hanging out with those dumb fucks he been with his whole life .On the other hand Nelson Pena isnt a normal highschool kid I alway's use to see him posting around wtih big crowds looking for a ffight
  • victorsbro
    word? and who the fuck r u?
  • dumd and dead
    Why are you claiming your "Victors" bro If your really his bro why don't you fucking get him out of jail?Or said you was the one who stabbed Nelson Pena. Man in the end of you dumbfucks are bunch of fake ass fucking friends who care about them selves I'm pretty sure you guys pointed each other out

    Im pretty sure Victor by now knows regrets hanging out with you inconsidered bastards he could've been a doctor a lawyer a cop who knows now he's just gonna be a 30+ year old man after he gets out of prison
  • asdfasd
    you say get him out of jail like its just tat simple, if it was really tat simple he woulda been out. we are supporting him and his family in everyway possible, if u dont know anything please dont talk shit. And pointed each other out? he turnned himself in because he didnt want to run for the rest of his life. and who may you be? u seem to be more concerned bout us more then victor
  • dumd and dead
    It ever occour to you people that it was your "beef" the reason why Victor Fong killed somebody
    I hope the NYPD Closes your dumb lion dance club calling your self "Hing dais" yea ok
  • RIP Punchy & Good luck Victor
    Who are you? where do you go off calling a lion dance group dumb? Why are you point fingers?

    Punchy and his friends came across Victor. Punchy and his friends picked a fight with Victor and he retaliated end of story. Both were victims here...
    -Punchy under his friends influence and peer pressure"as a regular young teen/adult faces everyday was probably why he participated in the fight in the first place.
    -Victor had his back against the wall and Fear, Adrenaline, and Instincts took over but until you were in his position before you don't know how it feels not knowing whats your next move or what you should do.
    neither of them deserved what happened nor any jail time at such a young age with much potential left but that's up to the judges.

    "Oh its his fault no its theirs" just shut up how bout that. Both didn't think before doing something and now is paying for it.

    Let us all learn a lesson from this.

    DON'T bring any more problems by pointing out people when you have no idea what's going on. Especially when the situation big enough as is.
    you need to grow up... face the fact that we all need to mature and try to prevent any more of this happening before another young teen gets hurt. It's just not worth it.
  • dumd and dead
    I'm sure your so fucking mature I'm pretty sure your another one of Victor's So called Hing dai's trying to be all sophisicated and shit.Your not the one whos going to jail for 23 years nor the one laying 5 feet under the ground so shut the fuck up.I hope those dumb fucking blacks or spanishs gangs they are in.Come around and kill one you fucks so you'll know how it really is to lose a loved one
    Please dont speak to me like you understand anything

    by the way next time read what your typing it makes no absolute fucking sense go back to school man theres still a long life ahead of you
  • anonymous49
    youre welcome to chill in chinatown but if you try to fuck around with the people in my community. you'll get yours. I speak for the people in my community.
  • RIP Punchy & Good luck Victor
    What is a "hing dai" is that Chinese? what does it mean?
    Your the one probably going to be buried 5 feet under if you keep talking like that outside on the street.
    Why don't you go up to this "lion dance" group and tell them how you feel or better yet do something about it rather than sit behind a computer insulting others over the internet with an anonymous screen name.
    If you really believe who's to blame here why aren't you doing nothing... go to the police and explain your side of the story you seem to know much about this situation. If your not going to do nothing just shut up you e-thug... trying to escalate problems over the internet GROW UP.
  • SaidandDONE
    to keep it real everyone has something to say...none of us will ever know the true story on why my lil brother is gone...they found the guy who was guilty of it.. it was all these dumbass lil dudes from smith that kept bringing beef to my bruther... and im totally glad they got victor, i have no feelings for that mans life whatsoever he can rot in hell for his sin! and this goes out to all u lil "gangstahs" how do ya sleep at night knowing it was yah fault nelson is gone?. yah sum cowards bc none of yah stepped up and sed yea i know who it was. cummon man thats sum bs bc if it wouldve been you who got killed nelson wouldve been either looking for the dude himself or helping out in tryna catch the bastard that killed you. After all nelson was a soldier, who recieved his wings on november 18th may you soul RIP lil brother i LOVE you TNP for life !
  • Impartial Observer
    People are innocent until proven guilty--that's for a judge and jury to decide, not you.
  • victorshingdai
    This cat Nelson brought this shit upon himself.
  • JUSTICE4NELSON(PUNCHY)
    I don't know anymore of how to live life after PUNCHY'S murder my life really went down hill.They say you grow stronger when you experience a tragedy.I just feel so weak.All this comments that has been written.I really wonder if it actual people that knows Punchy or is it people just tryin to start something.Could it be the lawyers in the murder case writing comments on this website or what? Well I'm so sick of false information.Is there anyone that knows to tell the truth .What happened to honesty these days.Will forever miss Nelson(Punchy).He really was a good person. No matter what bad comments they may write in this site about him.
  • SaidandDONE
    you have a point there and acctually i do know him... i basically grew up with him ... but hey you know what the lord is watching and nelson is in his glory i know hes watching over us.. so god bless us and nelsons family..
  • sideliner
    da truth is nelson brought 15-20 hommies to beef in ctown n got their ass handed to him. plain n simple. victor was an innocent bystander who got caught up in sum shit n use wat he learn to survive. if u want true justice i think its been serve. nelson got wat he deserve. of course everybody's got friends n family but apparently nelson didnt think bout them before he commited this crime. u will not find da truth here cause that will incriminate da person whos gonna post n his hommies will never admit fault so this beef looks like will continue for sum time. wats really fuk up is this is gonna turn into a race issue n da next aggressor will be charge wit racial crimes.
  • saidanddone
    homie.. you need to grow up... it happen ur right... but how the hell you guna say he innocent when the dude admitted it... idk the true story bc i wasnt there... but my mans is gone and if u dunt got nothing positive say shut up and keep it breezy.
  • hatinondumbfuksfromdahood
    all this bullshit about walkin away; THAT SHIT DUN WORK! do u think if 15 guys come lookin for trouble in sumone else neighborhood would actually let u walk away? i agree in being a bigger person n walk away but this dun apply. do u think it will ever be settle if he had walk away? this would happen eventually.
    punchy was a good kid; BULLSHIT! why was he a gangsta; or in better words, wanna-be gangsta? he just a thug like da rest of his cru that left him to die! if he was real G he wouldnt be dead. this aint his first fight n im sure he instigated a couple of dem so he got wat he came for! fuk him! all them fukers deserve to die thinkin they da shit. shoulda known better not to fuk with da chinks in their hood, stupid ignorant fuks!
    its sad this had to happen but it had to happen. muthafukers like to pick on chinese people? this wat u get! an example had to be made.sad we had to sacrifice a 17yr old but it shoulda happen years ago. us chinese peeps aint here for ur entertainment! next time ur whole family might die! STAY DA FUK OUTTA CHINATOWN IF U AINT GOT REAL BUSINESS THERE! n if these fukers want it on chinese new year, bring it. i guarantee u'll see ur homie punchy. u gotta be a dumb fuk to wanna start some shit on CNY in ctown full of chnese people n cops but then again, they r stupid. when these fukers gonna realize u CANT FUK WIT DA CHINKS? they been on earth thousands of yrs before theres even a puerto rico or domincan or even a concept of europe. u niggas using shit made from us! bet u theres at least 10 items in ur house made in china. better yet, those hammers n pipes cops found coulda been made in china!
  • notimeforfong
    i personally knew both punchy and victor. Needless to say both kids were "good" kids. punchy was funny, charming, and respectful and he did not deserve to die, his family has my deepest condolences. But victor, does not deserve time either because he too was funny, charming and very respectful. What happened that evening, should not have.

    regardless of how many of his friends were there and ready to fight, punchy should have left and should not have been there that evening as soon as he smelled a fight. he would still be alive had he not participated in this fight against victor.

    some people are saying victor is wrong for stabbing punchy and murdering him. but who would not defend themselves when they believe that their life was in danger. regardless of you nationality, there is no doubt in my mind that if you were being attacked you would not attack back and with whatever that can be used to help you protect your life.

    had punchy been alive, do you think victor would be? if this was the outcome punchy and his friends would be serving time. and would the pena/vasquez family members and friends be satisfied with punchy for serving time? i doubt. and the fong family would ask tht god punish punchy and hoped that he rot in jail.

    or had punchy been in victors position, would punchy not have resisted? if you knew punchy, you knew punchy would not have let a few punks beat him, he too would have pulled the weapon he was carrying and fight for his life.
    Punchy did not deserve to die, and although you are still grieving, you know had the situation been flipped you would not be okay with the circumstances that victor is facing as well. Victor does not deserve time either. The people who do deserve time are the people who teach kids it is okay to fight and escalate dumb shit.
  • victorshingdai
    Only Good reply here out of all reply, Sir were you a teacher of Victor and Punchy or what? Victor was like a brother to me, and I've been in Jail and I hated it. I can't even imagine what's Victor going through right now.
  • ...........
    okie, mr.new paper dude, u cant say victor was a bad perosn cuz if he was he wouldnt have trun himslef in. and i think there wold be a reason 4 the stabing like..duh it not like someone would stab someone if nothing happen! i think punchy did something wrong that got him piss....AND PPL STOP B****ING VICTOR ITS NOT ALL HIS FAULT LIKE WTF - -
  • victorshingdai
    He didn't turn himself in because He thought he was guilty, Victor acted as a Man and Let the law take it's course, He didn't want to be a running fugitive for his life. The fact that he turned himself in shows more that he is innocent than guilty, Guilty people stay running. Innocent people turn them self in to clear their own names.
  • Dev
    First off I do not appreciate the negative comments. Let Punchy My friend & relative by marriage Rest in Peace. Maybe there should be more investigation. But let this be known Punchy/Nelson was very hardworking, knew how to carry himself well, enjoyed going to parties, && was a great person. I worked right around the corner from him in an department store, would see him each day working hard. And honestly this is coming from an athlete, a Grade A, scholar, a bright young man & a great person to judge character. So Anonymous and Third eye review you both Need to pack it up & lay off.
  • dimples69
    Today is our Little Nelsons(Punchy) Birthday, he would of been 19 years old but was too soon taken away from us. Happy Birthday Little Nelson. I know God and his angels will be singing Happy Birthday to you, we miss you so much.
  • Rectuant to say
    Well you tell me since you have the Facts?
  • Attorney in New York
    Is Pena a gang member or not?
  • Rectuant to say
    Corrections "SPECULATIONS IS WHAT I MEAN FOR MR. ATTORNEY"!!!
  • Rectuant to say
    Okay, Mr. Attorney in New York. First and foremost you are under peculations when you say "for your understanding", do you have "Facts"? Were you there?, and have you seen any videos of what took place? And please for you sarcasm apology re frame yourself there's is no need for we know exactly what you can do with it!!! For you to come up in here and try to tarnish his name shame on you Mr. Attorney regardless what truly happen , he was a human being and his Family and Friends are still in mourning and another thing everyone is innocent until proven otherwise you should know that better then anyone. You must have facts not peculations. Mr. Victor Fong was not alone he was also with his group of guys so please right about now all we can do is wait for Justice to be serve. Mr. Fong turned himself in that does not make him a good person or a hero. He killed a person, if indeed there was 15 guys coming at him then Mr. Fong should of stabbed all 15 guys not just one and in that case why wasn't Fong hurt in anyway ? So please do get your Facts straight you so call Attorney!!
  • Attorney in New York
    YOU are wrong!!! As an attorney, I would say that a high percentage of self defense cases are won. The fact of the matter is, if Fong was defending himself to prevent great bodily harm, then he had a right to use reasonable force to do so. From what I understand, he was surrounded by 15 or more hispanic youths who had struck him with pipes and huge wrenches. That is deadly force and it probably was met with the same. Pena was no innocent kid and is definitely a gang member. Look at the youtube video and all of the gang signs and gang buddies. Sorry! The facts are the facts!
  • You
    only 1 percent of all self defense cases are won. He will get what is coming and he will rot in jail.
  • STILL GRIEVING
    WHAT A FOOL YOU ARE WHERE IN THE PARAGRAGH STATES THAT .STOP ASSUMING OR TRYING TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES BECAUSE YOU ARE MAKING YOURSELF LOOK LIKE A REAL @$$.You must be an immature kid .As I stated PRISON IS WHAT HE DESERVES THE LAW IS WHAT I GO BY.JAIL IS A SAFE HAVEN FOR FONG DID HE REALLY THINK HE COULD GET AWAY WITH RUNNING AWAY FROM THE AUTHORITIES living out there looking over his shoulders.ONCE AGAIN IMMATURE FOOL THAT YOU ARE GROW UP .FONG DID THE CRIME AND SHOULD PAY FOR IT WITH THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW.
  • dimples69
    To MR.OMG!!!! YOU STUPID, IGNORANT GROW UP. HOW DARE YOU MOCK SOMEONE FOR GRIEVING, I GUESS YOU HAVE NOT LOST SOMEONE DEAR TO YOU, AND WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO TELL US NOT TO WRITE HOW MUCH WE MISS HIM SHAME ON YOU , YOU INSTIGATOR. WHO NEEDS YOU OPINION ON ANYTHING ANYWAYS STAY OUT OF THIS CONVERSATION IF YOU HAVE NOTHING POSITIVE TO SAY BIG MOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Me
    are u saying u gonna go kill him if he was out?
  • STILL GRIEVING
    ANNONYMOUS#2 you say there was a group of 10+people with PUNCHY so now he is dead. Fong was provoked so its ok to MURDER.FONG knew where he was aiming when he stabbed and killed PUNCHY.FONG MANNED THE F**K UP who wouldn't.JAIL is A SAFE HAVEN for FONG RIGHT NOW.May god give this young man full JUSTICE HE DESERVES "PRISON" for Fong must pay for what he has done to NELSON.It is what it is!The world continues to go around I'm only human for I am mourning and writing about my pain of THIS SENSELESS DEATH and LOVE for PUNCHY.This is my way of healing.So SCREW ALL THAT DON'T LIKE ALL THE BOO HOOING IM WRITING .LET ME SEE HOW YOU ALL WOULD REACT WHEN SOMEONE SO CLOSE TO YOU WAS MURDERED.
  • victorshingdai
    Prison Safe Haven for Fong? Motha fucka that a Threat? We ain't scared, ChinaTown Down to Ride till this world falls apart, Holla homie.
  • HAHA
    hey "omg", who's being racist? I only see one person making stereo type comments by "reluctant to say","chinese people get down dirty" man you have no idea what is out there. "blacks only fight with fist". HAHAHA!
    And who the fuck is beefing? they are just expressing their opinions. But this fighting needs to be stopped before things even escalate to even higher problems.

    RIP punchy, he didn't deserve to die but he went looking for trouble so he can only blame himself.
    I believe in 2nd chances and points are made by both sides... Punchy had his choices, he chose to jump someone who he under estimated and Victor did defend himself . It is what it is.
  • omg
    BOOO FUCKING HOOO...stop fucking crying, I dont know nelson and i'm sure he was a good kid in the eyes of your people and im sure victor was a good kid in the eyes of his ppl...Fact of the matter is you got one dead, and one going to jail and you guys are arguing about what should go down and what shouldnt. SHAME on ALL of you, maybe if you guys stop saying racists remarks to each other, ALL of this beef would never happen, AND DONT GIVE ME THAT IM NOT RACIST BULLLSHIT, Nelson is dead okay, we dont need to see the "WE will miss you" booo hoo...Maybe you guys will finally realize that your small immature beef needs to be deaded, Victor turned himself in, that shows that He MANNED the fuck up, NONE of you guys look like you guys know the Judicial system so stop speculating on shit, Kill this whole argument. RIP NELSON and STAY strong VICTOR but these guys wont read this cuz ones dead and the other is looking at time...WAKE THE FUCK UP and DEAD whatever you guys have against each other which I bet is not much
  • You
    so are you saying that if every 17 year old went out and stabbed and shot someone they can just plea self defense and not go to jail because they have a future ahead of them? ok for say he dose get away with it this time. Wont that put a mentalty in his head that its probably OK to go and off someone else?

    Murders DO not get away period.
    We will find out on the 30th what happens to him and HOPEFULLY he will be the same as the other murders serving life.
  • Annonymous#2
    Alright Reluctant to say, I too would walk away from a fight, smile, laugh and keep walking. I'm not someone who would like to cause trouble, I look out for myself first. I don't think Punchy should have died and it was over the top but if i was holding was holding that knife and a group of people are trying to hit you with weapons, what are your choices? stay down while this group keep beats you as every second passes by thinking when this is going to stop. Me... it would be hard able to wake up everyday and not thinking and knowing i killed someone but would you risk your life not defending yourself to a bunch of group of kids that your don't even know?
    I'm a not teenagers who thinks I'm a big-shot and runs around hurting people because they called me a pussy or anything then maybe have pointless back and forth name calling and eventually escalate to fights to even bigger, no that's not me. So please don't talk about the streets eating me up and I have to wise up.
    And 2 wrongs don't make a right, Victor is only age of 17 and still has a future ahead. Sending Victor to jail for life doesn't make anything right. He had plans to become a cop and was a A-B student. Sorry for you loss i truly mean that and i feel sorry for his family it really is a tragedy but i just don't think it is fair especially when Victor was provokes first and defended himself.
    This will be my last comment. We are having a pointless argument.
    Hope you stay well.
  • reluctant to say
    HMMMMMMM, Mr.anonymous I must address to you on your comments First and foremost If I have to I personally would walk away from any fight.When I mention fist back in the days people fought with only their bare hands did it make right to fight no absolutely not but if it had to come down to that rather get into a fist fight then to had stab someone that was my point. I had nothing to do with what I knew because to be honest I only would see punchy in his neighborhood and in mine I am an older person not a teenager okay, the problem with you young knuckle heads is that you think you know everything you know nothing about the streets and you don't wise up now from all this that happen the streets will eat you up wake up
  • victorshingdai
    Eat who up? Eat Punchy up? Old Man shut the fuck up and get back on your respirator
  • Annonymous#2
    Wow, unbelievable... some things people say are just ignorant. Chinese people get down real dirty? Dominicans don't get down like that? Where are you from? this is america... There are Domincans. Blacks and Puerto Rican from Smith, Rutgers,Ave D and other blocks on the lower east side going off somewhere with pipes, hammers, baton and guns. You would hold any weapon for protection and don't even lie.

    Are you saying Victor was holding over 10 hammers and pipes?
    And even though the weapons were not brought down by Punchy's group that it's ok for punchy to hit a kid because he is only using fist?

    " These teenagers came with their fist to fight but these days people don’t fight with their hands anymore." -reluctant to say

    I think you had an idea what was going on that day and you could of have stopped it but I guess it's ok because he was using his first. You knew better yourself what you could have done but chose to let him continue with his actions.
  • reluctant to say
    we love you little Nelson
  • reluctant to say
    you it's known to be a fact that there are Chinese gangs all over Chinatown, those hammers, knives,and sticks I'm sure is was The group of Chinese because regardless what you say Mr.Anonymous#2 puerto ricans, blacks , Dominicans don't get down like that. These teenagers came with their fist to fight but these days people don't fight with their hands anymore. If you look at the history of Chinese Gangs they get down real dirty and for a fact they not out there making a scene but because Victor did what he did his intentions where the obvious he killed someone whom we really love , he was kind always looking out for his friends. A teenage who would walk down the street with his Grandma with no shame. We knew who Little Nelson was we seem him grow up to be a find young man with a kind heart, regardless what you say or think or what that video shows that will not tarnish our memories of our little Nelson, because just like you say Victor might have had his back against the wall but did you ever think so did Punchy... our Hearts are still in pain everyday we all think about how what we couldn't of done so that punchy could be here with us Victor has no clue what he has taken away from us all who seem him grow up. love little Nelson
  • victorshingdai
    and what you say don't make sense, Fist? Motha fucka there was 15 heads. Punchy's group is pussy for tryna jump them. It wasn't gonna be no 1 on 1 fight nigga. Go to sleep
  • victorshingdai
    Punchy shoulda stayed home, I don't feel bad for him He got what he was looking for, Rest In Piss.
  • Annonymous#2
    And people that have read my comments don't look at me as a bad person and that I'm defending a murderer, NO. Sure someone died and it was unnecessary but I'm someone who looks out for myself. I have been in a situation where i have been assaulted by a group if people but i didn't even had a chance to defend myself.

    "Punchy" intentionally try to hit one kid with group of ages 17-18+ years think about if you were in Victor's position.
    Where would you run when you have a group of kids around you knowing you wont get away? Who do you go to for help when there's no help around? What would you do when 12 kids are around you with hammers, pipes and sticks? Knowing they are after to get you what do you do? Then who's the victim?
  • Annonymous#2
    "STILL GRIEVING" yeah sure no one "forced" him to carry a weapon but cmon be honest there are always sometimes unexpected things that can happen and people look behind their back constantly when just walking home to be on the safe side. Victor was probably just one of the people who felt safe holding a weapon or maybe the weapon wasnt even his.. he could of picked it up at the scene for all we know... But there was 10 hammers and other types of weapons also found... so i guess victor wasn't alone in this case unless he was carrying all 10 of the hammers on him?
    He wasn't "forced" to carry a weapon neither was he forced to use it. But he was provoked. Punchy had group of 10+ kids with him and i highly doubt victor would run up to "Punchy". More than 10 weapons were found at the scene... what does that tell you? Sure it was a great loss for "Punchys" but it think about it,
    It's you or them and that's life. You make a decision then you live on it. Punchy's decision was to assault one kid, Victor Fong with a group of kids. I know for sure I'm not going down without putting up a fight. Look out for number one, yourself.
  • You
    btw victor fong is no OJ simpson. he is NOT GETTING AWAY WITH THIS.
  • You
    Self defense plea will only work if your life is in danger and you have no other option. IE being cornered and not being able to run from 15 people as you say. If u do show a video of it. it will clearly show he had chance to run, but choose to stay. also the question arises what normal 17 year old walks around with pokers on a school day? obviously he was expecting to use it sooner or later. You can say whatever you want. Punchy is dead. Victor Fong is going to rot in rikers until the day he meets satan himself.

    RIP Punchy. God bless
  • victorshingdai
    Punchy came thru wit his homies looking for what I guess He found, Rest In Piss bitch.
  • STILL GRIEVING
    No one forced Fong to carry a weapon he admittingly used.Now PUNCHY is DEAD (MURDERED) stabbed in LEG and CHEST.FONG made himself look BAD.PUNCHY'S BLOOD is in his hands.For Fong is now ARESSTED for the MURDER of PUNCHY. How nice of a man is that of Fong for ending up KILLING PUNCHY.There are 2 sides of the story no doubt.At the end of it all NELSON(PUNCHY)IS DEAD.Once again PUNCHY you will forever be loved, remembered and truely missed.
  • STILL GRIEVING
    No one forced Fong to carry a weapon he admittingly used.Now PUNCHY is DEAD (MURDERED) stabbed in LEG and CHEST.FONG made himself look BAD.PUNCHY'S BLOOD is in his hands.For Fong is now ARESSTED for the MURDER of PUNCHY. How nice of a man is that of Fong for ending up KILLING PUNCHY.There are 2 sides of the story no doubt.At the end of it all NELSON(PUNCHY)IS DEAD.Once again PUNCHY you will forever be loved, remembered and truley missed.
  • qwerty
    you say you dont use hammers true or not, you have 15 niggas trying to jump smaller groups. and what i think is fong isnt stupid enough to run to 15 niggas trying to stab them but used the knife for self-defense. i hope we do get the footage soon and c how nice of a man u all claim him to be
  • You
    First of all. people from rutgers projects never fight with hammers, battons from experience only asian gangs do that. if victor was the one killed im sure you be in my position saying what i am saying and ill be in your position defending. but its not like that and our friend is dead. and your friend is going to rot in prison. nothing else matters.
  • Me
    All u say are only the things tat makes victor look bad, wat about the fact that nelson was with way more people then the news said he was with, wat bout the fact tat after the incident there was series of hammers and weapons on the floor, i doubt it was all from victor. What was he suppose to do when u have ppl trying to jump him?
  • STILL GRIEVING
    One must also remember that he lived with his grandmother that raised him and suffers daily living in the apartment he grew up in till the day he died.She recalled that day 11/18/09 making him his favorite spanish dish of mangoo and salchichas(mashed plantains with spanish sausages).She is confirmed that he at least ate his favorite dish.There's not a day that passes by that I don't think about him.MIssing him so much that it just hurts.I know we all must continue living in this crazy world thou Im living life with this numbness feeling since punchy passed away.I see people just going about there business as if nothing had happen.LIFE goes on for sure. I just hope NO ONE FORGETS PUNCHY and will keep his memories of him alive.
  • You
    Fuck this nigga, i hope he fucking dies and rots in jail. No remorse for that son of a bitch, i feel bad for his parents but i hope he suffers in rikers and dies slowly. How is it second degree murder when 1. he stabbed punchy twice 2. he stabbed other nigga in the neck, 3. he fled. thats at least first degree and another charge of attempt murder. Nothing less then 25 years without parole. He has taken away what can never be returned to all of us. RIP Punchy. the whole block loves you and will always miss you. Rutgers projects ^^^
  • victorshingdai
    Punchy was a piece of shit and would have never benefited this society anyways, He's better off dead.
  • cindy .
    glad he turned himself him, just wish we all knew the true story of what happened i hear the end of this month they will show a footage in court of how he died i would love to see this footage and what actually happened although it will be hard to see but im sure he has alot of people going out to support him. Please keep me posted on what happens guys

    may you RIP nelson pena rutgerss ^^
    henry street misses you .
    so do we so hard to see you laying in that casket man :(
  • Ariel
    people need to find the 2 victim nowwww he need to stay in jail for a long time
  • Ariel
    RIP Punchy i miss yu i hate that that happen yu always be missed .. i hope that guy who did that to u burn in hell ! and stay in jail for life sorry to the family i love you all
  • STILL GRIEVING
    FACT 1.PUNCHY was stabbed in the CHEST and LEG 2 seperate places.FACT 2 The other boy was Stabbed in the neck. Fact 3 Fong fled to New Jersey. Fact 4 yeah, Fong turned himself in for admitting to the stabbings. This all means he had a weapon that he had and used which ended up with a MURDERED victim (PUNCHY) and another victim wounded.3 stabbings 2 victims and 1 in jail.Yet some say Fong is so innocent.Another fact is Punchy was named PUNCHY because when he was a baby he always had his hands in a fist for that ignorant person that made the comment of his nick name.The family and friends wants JUSTICE in the legal sense.There is a GOD and whatever happened that day shouldn't have lead to a DEATH.You will forever be missed my beloved PUNCHY R.I.P!
  • victorshingdai
    I personally knew Victor for 8 years and we were more then friends we were brothers, Victor really is the good person everyone make him to be, please don't judge when you have never even met the man. Victor carried a knife for self defense, Nelson the victim came to ChinaTown with 15 of his homies looking for trouble. Victor pulled out the knife in self defense because the other party drew hammers and other weapons. In the other majority of states in this country where guns are legal in a situation like that your first instinct is to draw your gun and neutralize the threat, and that's what Victor did. Could the Situation been prevented? Sure. But when 15 minds come together to commit a crime It's hard to control a situation like that without having to use more force than usual and in this case Victor did what was necessary.
  • impartial
    you know what the ridiculous thing about all this is most of the people making comments about both parties are just making comments just to have other people see what they typed on thier cpu and don't know any of the circumstances that led upto the incident. video footage just tells you the stuff that happend in front of the camera not anything that happened behind the area the cameras angle of view. the people that are saying or typing that they witnessed what lead to everything that night should go and testify about what they saw if it was the truth because best believe the prosecutor and defendants lawyer are going to rip them a new @$$hole and if they lied they'll be in prison too.
  • SMH NELSON I WISH YUH WAS STILL HERE BRO
  • dimples69
    WOW, I am dumbfounded, how everyone can justify both sides but failed to realize that what took place could of been prevented. You young teenagers don't realize that Satan is in this world to deceit, kill and destroy lives and that everyone has a choice in life to make that every choice we make affects people that we care for and love dearly. Regardless who's to blame everyone who play a part that day had a choice and for that choice two lives were greatly affected. Mr Fong had a choice, he took a life away a dear life and for that one wrong choice now his life is ruined and that it's also very sad.Teenagers, people, please wake up, God is also Sadden by all of this you're given Satan the power over your lives it doesn't have to result to this.For God so love the world that he gave his only begotten son for those who believe in him should not perish but have eternal life John 3:16 Give your hearts to Jesus. I pray for Victor Fong that he may accept his punishment but also ask God for forgiveness and receive salvation through our heavenly father.And for the Pena Family that God may comfort them and give them strength for such a great loss, so so sorry.
  • Eric
    I apoligize when I wrote "witnessed". What i meant was reports from friends that passed by the scene at around 6:15pm. They walked by and saw weapons on the floor. Judging from their account of the amount of weapons, there must have been culprits of 2+ individuals. Once again, I apoligize for any misunderstanding this might have caused. However, there were many witnesses on the scene from what I heard and school official such as school safety should very well know what happened.
    I hope this case gets solved and the innocence of these young children be proven.
  • I won't say
    Okay, so I'm sorry that this whole situation occured. But look at it this way two lives were affected. I personally knew Victor Fong for almost 4 years now and he's a great guy. I know you guys probably hear that all the time that the killer was awesome & shit but he didn't have to take anyones life. All of the reports I've read/ heard are in total contrast to what "really" happened. Honestly we will never know unless we were there so believe half of what you see and none of what you hear. I just know for a fact that Victor is very saddened about what happened and it was never his intentions to kill Nelson it was honestly out of self defense. I really hope someone gets to the bottom of this soon. I sorry for all of Nelson's family he's in a better place now & I'm here for the Fong happy I hope everything plays out for the better.
  • annonymous#2
    Well I have to say, kids these days just getting over board with this kind of foolishness. I have been around NYC chinatown from time to time and i have heard stories and rumors about Chinese kids and groups of Caucasians starting trouble back and forth against each others, but this is just getting out of hand.
    I also agree with third eye review. I have read the daily news papers about Mr.Fong, 17 years old stabbing a "good kid". But some friends who lived in chinatown had told me that it was a group of 15 or more Caucasians who had went to chinatown looking for trouble and Mr.Fong was surrounded and out numbered then Mr.Fong had pulled out a weapon. There was a video footage that shown this scene which some weird reason is not mentioned in the english news papers but mentioned in the chinese newspaper so i hope that footage is shown in court.
    I don't believe the action Mr.Fong did was the right but I don't believe that "Punchy" was up to nothing but just walking home after a days work, if he was walking around in a group of 15 or more people in chinatown that's just asking for trouble especially at
    6-7PM. I don't believe what Mr.Fong did was intentional because If i was in his same situation, I would also have also defended myself and i know many others would have done the same.
    I truly respect Mr.Fong to turn himself in.

    I hope that Eric you as a witness of this scene should testify. Mr.Fong is only 17 years of age, this is a young man's life, he still has a chance of a future.
  • annonymous
    wat king of nickname is punchy for a kind hard working individual?
  • gbfdg
    fong had to defend himself pena was not alone he brought a whole crew of ppl aginst fong and his friends..they need to go more in depth. the story they had is wrong it wasdnt just 2 on 2 fong was out numbered and pena is not the sweet kind hearted guy they make him out to be. fong stabbed him to defend himself he was out numbered
  • annonymous
    theres camera footage of a group of people attacking those asians. so you guys did provoke it. shame that you guys want the sympathy. and now hes dead. shame on you guys for lying to the family members of the victim. he died in vain and its all your fault and you gotta live with it which is sooooo much worst than jail time which he will get the minimum for
  • third eye review
    hmmm so he got into another fight before? doesnt sound the good hardworking stay outta trouble kid to me. leaves me to beleive that his group started it. dont play the sad side punchys frends. you guys alllllll know who really started it.
  • richard nuzzolese
    i knew nelson. he was ma homie. i worked near him in soho. i rememba him gettin in a fight last month. and hearing that he was stabbed to death. all gained is lost and his life is over. i prey for ma dude nelson.didnt know him growin up but loved the kid as ma homboy.
  • $tAck$
    well if someone else didnt stick their nose in someone elses business.**
  • $tAck$
    i agree wid yu 'third eye review'. no one deserves to have there life taken away. well if someone stuck there nose in there own business they wulda still been living here right now wrong or right. who goes around wid double digit amount of people with weapons looking for other people. lets be serious. is that minding your own business? well eric. i hope yu show in court to testify. and ' kas ' i hope your real side is the real story. if not yu need to find some new resources.
  • third eye review
    hey Eric, if you were an eye witness then you really need to testify because you're an impartial to both sides and the city needs to know What really happened. He's 17, whether he did it or not, he doesn't deserve max years.
  • third eye review
    They didnt find the guy, he turned himself in, and did you really know the whole story or did your friend give you their side. You can't get the real story unless you heard both sides so I doubt that you did. sorry for your lost but why did his boys outnumber those three asians with hammers looking for other people? Theres no way that he went provoked punchy and his boys because they were outnumbered. anyways. GROW THE FUCK UP people or else it's going to be another lost
  • kasandra like sis
    rip i love u punchy now im happy that i found out the real side of the story... im glad they found that guy. punchy u are gone pero neva forgotten
  • punchys friend
    RIP punchy you will be missed all i have is beautiful memories of you and how much i liked you back in the day, you was such a good kid and my sorrys go out to your family your in a better place now looking down on us save me a spot up there :( imy
  • Eric
    I agree with all sides on this issue that this violence needs to stop. We need to unite and forget our differences while embracing each other.
  • king
    being upset over a look is so ridiculously dumb, people just need to swallow their pride and walk on. both sides could have just not looked at each other but no, they had to be all hood. Grow the fuck up people, and now a person is dead. I'm asian and I live in chinatown and I have to say i'm sick and tired of people that come in 20 deep tryna jump people because they have ipod headphones or give a dirty look. It's stupid and now someone is dead cause of it. I hope the people who are reading this post now can get it into their thick minds that this shit can be prevented if you just swallow your pride. DEAD and GONE-TI
  • Anoymous
    I do not believe Fong wanted to kill Pena, but rather it was a act of self-defense. Both Pena and Fong really shouldn't have been related into this. No one should have started with one another, and no one should have continued the dispute.
  • Punchy's Cousin
    Mr. Eric you are absolutely correct. There were a series of weapons and hammers as what i was told also. I do however believe my cousins death could have been and/or is gang related. The reality of it is that no matter what a good or bad person should not have to lose their life over nonsense like this. It's just upsetting and sad when your own family member loses his life over nonsense like this. But I know my cousin is in a better place where he will not get hurt.
  • Eric
    We don't know what really happened. There were a series of hammers and weapons laid out on the floor after the incident as there were more than 2 people on both sides involved... This was a gang assault as i witnessed and and investigation needs to take place to find out what really happened.
  • Punchy's cousin
    I'm glad they caught that son of a B*****. I hope he serves a long time. I wouldn't mind the death penalty or life either. My cousin did not deserve to be killed. He was well mannered, lovable, respectful, and well educated. NOW HE COULD FINALLY R.I.P. I LOVE YOU COUSIN. We will never forget you.
    Samantha
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